Ebisu continued

So I pointed Nathan in this direction tonight and we got chatting about archetypes which led to some kind of a visionary episode for him to share with me. Sometimes it happens, only usually it's the other way around, me giving info to someone else. It was nice to have them speak to me through someone else. The convo is below.

Nathan: there are things here I do not follow
I pride myself on being able to follow most theology talk
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
In my blog, things you don't follow?
Nathan says:
si
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Ok, what don't you get?
Nathan says:
how did you find him? How is he relevant to you?
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Oh, I found him through a lj post that I follow, Men in Full. He was featured there because he's a full sized guy and for me, a light went off in my head.
Nathan says:
please explane this archtype buisness
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
He's relevant because he's the other half of the Warrior. In a small way I didn't even realize was missing, it's now complete.
The Warrior is an Archetype, the the Virgin/Maiden, Mother and Crone.
An archetype is a figure that exists in many myths/cultures/religions
Nathan says:
I know the deffinition, just how it applies here....like I'm familiar with the wiccan trifecta, but how does warrior fit?
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
The Warrior exists outside of the trifecta and it's not Wiccan. It applies here because while the Warrior archetype is an archetype, it's also very personal to me.
Nathan says:
of course, with your clan
tribe...sorry, stumbling over terminology
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Yes, and also because I've always held Artemis in high regard. No, clan was right. I don't have a tribe.
Nathan says:
the mightiest of warriors, a spear in one hand, a book in the other
half full of your words, from what you've seen
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
I think you might be thinking of Athena, though she is very kick ass too.
Nathan says:
don't know words just filtered thru me
Had to write them somewhere
figured here is appropriate
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
*nod* Artemis could hunt with a spear or bow. She was another daughter of Zeus and sister to Apollo. Here is definitely appropriate.
Nathan says:
it came with a strong image of you
could be something beyond, could be madness, could be both
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
I prefer a spear sometimes, in D&D.
And you know I love books.
Nathan says:
the book is half full, words you wrote, of what you learned. It';s a work in progress
the other half is what you will learn
I think you're supposed to write it, she-wo-spans-many-cultures
or I'm rambling madly
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
That's important. What you just said? It rang a 'bell' in my head. Keep going.
Nathan says:
the rest is beyond words
It's pure understanding, the part of how I think that makes communication hard
I'll try to translate
You walk the world
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Alright. I'll be saving this convo.
Nathan says:
here, thru this resource, the net
it's a road/tunnel/pathway
bridge?
(a guide for travel)
by foot seems important for some reason
barefoot anklets with beads and feathers
you see distant lands
thru words
they talk to you
sourses
cultures
voices
words
words are fluid
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
*nodnod*
Nathan says:
same words mean diffrent things
warrior/warrior/warrior
very diffrent
use thier words thru you
make your words
pages/ink/book
write
write a map
globe
global
GAH
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
That's awesome.
Nathan says:
this is hard to do
it's here just not in words
the visual is surreal
there is a globe in a book
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
*nod* I hate that, it can be very very hard to describe.
Nathan says:
not a drawing but a globe in the pages
you are writing it, not drawing it
quill pen
having trouble focusing on the feather
feel like it's important
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Feathers are a symbol for me, of being on the right track and it ties to my Pagan name
Nathan says:
red bead, blue bead
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
What colour is the quill pen?
Nathan says:
feather is black or grey or dull white
you are in a pine forest
you are wearing hide
deer
a buck
antlers
spear looks like a pool stick
could be me trying to make sense
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
It's interesting your getting a vision of me as both man/woman.
Nathan says:
trying to read the book name
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Don't do that.
Leave the title alone.
Nathan says:
E.....something
one word
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
It's very very rare we're given actual words.
Nathan says:
words are fluid
...it's lifting
smoke from the fire...pine branches clouding everything up
intended to obscure me
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
*nod* You're not supposed to read the title.
Nathan says:
I've seen enough maybe?
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Exactly.
You said trying to read the book name and someone said in my ear "don't let him read the book".
Nathan says:
it's done now I think
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
*nod* Can I post this in my blogger to mull it over later?
Nathan says:
si
there's an important note
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Ok.
Nathan says:
something that it seems critical I must make sure you know
Teach you it's depth?
Words are fluid
so much so they are meaningless
But meaningfull
We...at our core...all think like me, I belive
in ideas, understandings, consepts
formless
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
I hit something the other day; words are just symbols, just ways to make sense of images.
TREE doesnt' look or sound anything like a real tree but it's our word for it.
Nathan says:
words are as pouring water into a bucket
forcing it to take the buckets form
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
*nod*
Nathan says:
than using that to deliver the water
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
We lose something by defining and naming it, by writing it down.
Nathan says:
but, it's the best we've got
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
It is.
Nathan says:
be careful with words
you must try to take all words from the speakers viewpoint
do not mix them with your own
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
That's very very hard.
Nathan says:
it's a trial...the road
the path
global...yes
a long path
I think I get it
you have a chalenge/trial ahead of you
gathering words
putting them together
Curvy-wench is watching Grey's on DVD says:
Writing a book?
Nathan says:
many viewpoints
I think so
gathering the viewpoints, experiences of many.


I then speculated that I should write a book or something about the Warrior archetype across cultures and time, past and present Warriors; who are going to be the Warriors of tomorrow. Retell the myths, give them new light and life, etc etc. Sounds like a gnomish life quest.